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Carcillo 10-29-2012 08:56 AM

David Rundblad or Stefan Elliott?
 
These two young D-man headed into last season as two of the most highly regarded prospect D-men. Both were coming off amazing seasons. Rundblad was ripping up SEL and Elliott was doing the same in juniors. Expectations were sky high for them (Rundblad was #1 in Dobber's prospect D-man rankings, Elliott #6) and they were in Calder talks before the season (especially Rundblad).

It was quickly noticed, however, that Rundblad's defensive game wasn't at NHL-level and he needed seasoning in the minors which he got, once he was traded to Phoenix. As the promise of Karlsson-Rundblad duo running Ottawa's PP turned into Rundblad having to fight with OEL, Yandle, Gormley and other Coyotes' young D-men, so did the hype stop. Rundblad became quickly the forgotten fantasy stud D-man prospect.

Meanwhile Elliott continued to raise to the top prospect D-men according to many. But was his rookie season really that much more impressive than Rundblad's? The expectations were just a lot less higher and it was known that his game needed more seasoning. Elliott's NHL-career started impressive but as the season went on he struggled and found himself in back in the minors. Still his season is being looked at more impressive than Rundblad's - but was it really that?

Rundblad had 7 points in 30 NHL-games between Ottawa and Phoenix and 16 points 30 games in AHL. Elliott had 13 points in 39 NHL-games with Colorado and 14 points in 30 games in AHL. Points wise their rookie seasons were more or less identical. What separates them is +/- (Rundblad was -30 compined in NHL and AHL, Elliott was +7). But that can be a deceiving statistic and is very team related.

This year Rundblad has started with 7 assists in 7 games in AHL while Elliott is pointless in 7 games.

Elliott has raised to being the top D-man in Dobber's rankings while Rundblad has fallen all the way to 16th place.

They're only 4 months apart in age and were drafted in the same draft class. They also have similar size and both struggle at the defensive end while having top-end offensive skills. So to me they're fairly comparable D-men.

So my question is, which of these two young prospects would you rather own in your keeper league? Has Rundblad really deserved the fall in ranking and in hype (seems like a lot of people already consider him as bust) after his rookie year and was Elliott's rookie year really that good to put him the best prospect D-man?

So, Rundblad or Elliott?

Front89 10-29-2012 10:41 AM

I would take Elliott for his talent/potential, but also for two other primary reasons, team and competition for opportunity.

Colorado IMV is a team on the rise, has some good offensive talent and, besides EJ whose own future is up in the air, Elliott has the best chance to sieze the main offensive D-man spot on their roster.

Runblad, on the other hand, is on Phoenix whose future is unknown, is offensively challenged and he has to compete with Yandle & OEL not to mention Gormley et al.

kevinsrangers 10-29-2012 10:47 AM

in their draft year i drafted rundblad 7th overall and elliot went 8th in our pool. i now own both. i think elliot is less risk but i like rundblads top end more.

DerekReese 10-29-2012 10:52 AM

I think these two guys are goind to be good NHLers but I gave the nod to Elliott because he doesnt have the stiff compettion for playing time that Rundblad does.

dyzfunctioned 10-29-2012 10:58 AM

Elliott is the safer bet IMO but personally, I'll gladly take Rundblad.

Elliott was overhyped (not saying Rundblad wasn't) to the extreme because based on his age/supporting cast/league he was playing in, his stats weren't all that impressive.

fungchen3 10-29-2012 11:12 AM

I prefer Elliott for a few reasons:

1. Competition - If Elliott is capable of putting it all together, he will be the top offensive D on an emerging Avs team. Rundblad will be behind Yandle and OEL and has some other nice competition to contend with.

2. Skills - While Rundblad is a silky smooth offensive player, there were a handful of times last year where Elliott showed ELITE offensive play (not good, but elite). Neither player were capable of holding a full-time job in the NHL last year but Elliott showed flashes of brilliance.

3. Shooting - Elliott has an amazing wrist shot and loves to join the rush with speed and fire the biscuit. Rundblad reminds me more of a Tomas Kaberle type who excels at the transition game and loves to pass.

Zorro 10-29-2012 02:39 PM

Predicting young d-men is the hardest thing to do in FANTASY HOCKEY.. To pick between these two is such a crap shoot, but I guess if I had to choose I would probably choose Elliott just because he seems to be the future PPQB of the Av's.. Rundblad seems to have too much competition ahead of him right now, so I would go with Elliott..

The Hockey Hitman 10-30-2012 03:30 AM

Based on potential alone, Rundblad would be the winner here...

but factor in everything else, like opportunity, two-way game etc. and Elliot is the safer, more realistic bet at this point...and his potential is pretty high too.

mounD 10-30-2012 09:57 AM

Both good options. Elliott seems to be the safe choice, so so I'll cast my lot in with him. I'd love to own Rundblad, though.

Incidentally, when I first joined my main keeper league, Runblad was on my main roster, and not being aware of our farm teams when first joining, I dropped him for some depth player.

Pretty bone-headed move, and sort of a "welcome to the league" moment for me. I plan on staying with this league for a long time, and regardless of the guy's future NHL success (or lack thereof), I will always remember David Rundblad and that fateful lesson.

The Comish 10-30-2012 06:30 PM

Elliott over Rundblad for me, but it's close.


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