2012/13 DobberHockey Entry Smythe Division League Chat
 

Smythe Division finished our draft in exactly 2hr 15min.
Thanks to all that showed up and picked so quickly.

Feel free to post your team.

So is this where we trash talk each other for a couple months before they start playing hockey...?

So who's gonna win (on paper)?

Here's my team: (Comments welcome)

C: Giroux, Spezza, Marleau, J. Thornton, Zajac, Grandlund
LW: Kovalchuk, Whitney, Hagelin, Latendresse
RW: Oshie, Read, Brouwer, Burmistov, Smith-Pelly
D: Kronwall, Voynov, Gonchar, Orpik, Cowen, Martin, Ference
G: Halak, Backstrom, Fasth

1. (5) Claude Giroux (Phi - C,RW)
2. (26) Ilya Kovalchuk (NJ - LW)
3. (35) Jaroslav Halak (StL - G)
4. (56) Niklas Backstrom (Min - G)
5. (65) Jason Spezza (Ott - C)
6. (86) Patrick Marleau (SJ - C,LW)
7. (95) Joe Thornton (SJ - C)
8. (116) Niklas Kronwall (Det - D)
9. (125) T.J. Oshie (StL - C,RW)
10. (146) Ray Whitney (Dal - LW)
11. (155) Travis Zajac (NJ - C)
12. (176) Matt Read (Phi - RW)
13. (185) Mikael Granlund (Min - C)
14. (206) Troy Brouwer (Was - RW)
15. (215) Brooks Orpik (Pit - D)
16. (236) Slava Voynov (LA - D)
17. (245) Carl Hagelin (NYR - LW)
18. (266) Sergei Gonchar (Ott - D)
19. (275) Jared Cowen (Ott - D)
20. (296) Alex Burmistrov (Wpg - C,RW)
21. (305) Guillaume Latendresse (Ott - LW)
22. (326) Viktor Fasth (Anh - G)
23. (335) Paul Martin (Pit - D)
24. (356) Andrew Ference (Bos - D)
25. (365) Devante Smith-Pelly (Anh - RW)

From Russia with 'ov (Pengwin7's Team)

1. (4) Evgeni Malkin (Pit - C,RW)
2. (27) Ilya Bryzgalov (Phi - G)
3. (34) Zach Parise (Min - LW)
4. (57) Semyon Varlamov (Col - G)
5. (64) Marian Gaborik (NYR - RW)
6. (87) Mike Green (Was - D)
7. (94) Mark Streit (NYI - D)
8. (117) Alexander Semin (Car - LW,RW)
9. (124) David Clarkson (NJ - RW)
10. (147) Olli Jokinen (Wpg - C)
11. (154) Vincent Lecavalier (TB - C)
12. (177) Kimmo Timonen (Phi - D)
13. (184) Derek Dorsett (Cls - RW)
14. (207) Andrei Markov (Mon - D)
15. (214) Matt Martin (NYI - LW)
16. (237) Stephane Robidas (Dal - D)
17. (244) Brayden Schenn (Phi - C)
18. (267) Kyle Quincey (Det - D)
19. (274) Mikael Samuelsson (Det - RW)
20. (297) Andrej Meszaros (Phi - D)
21. (304) Colin Greening (Ott - C)
22. (327) Steve Sullivan (Pho - LW)
23. (334) Vinny Prospal (Cls - C,LW)
24. (357) Stu Bickel (NYR - D)
25. (364) Kyle Clifford (LA - LW)

What I liked about my draft:
The #4 position was great. I knew I'd get one of Crosby (1), Stamkos (3), Malkin (4), or Ovechkin (6). I was shocked when Lundqvist went #2 and also a bit shocked to see Giroux taken ahead of Ovechkin. On the return I was hoping to nab my two favourite goalies for this year: Bryz & Miller. I was thrilled to get Bryz but Miller went in the 6 picks before it got back to me. For my 3rd rounder, I settled on Parise (instead of taking the next of the best goalies: Halak, Howard, Price, Kipper). Niemi & Jamie Benn were two players I wanted that went just before my Varlamov pick. I had a debate between Varlamov vs. Pavelec (who went after Varly), we'll see how that works out. My absolute favourite thing about my draft if my position count (by eligibility): 6C/6LW/6RW/8D. This gives me a +2 at each position and I should be able to play weekly schedules very nicely. Overall, I like my team, I'd probably give it a B+.

What I disliked about my draft:
I tried as hard as I could to stay away from HITS & PIM, knowing I could add those later... but I gave in mid-draft and took Dorsett & Matt Martin. I had lost track of my LW during the draft (none taken from Round 8-14). Then I felt forced to grab Matt Martin... probably much earlier than I needed too. There were 50pt/15PPP/200 SOG players on the board at that spot at both C & RW. From past experience, I've learned that the PIM players start to rack up those stats once their team is out of playoff contention. Which means the PIM for Dorsett & Martin really start flowing around game 60-82. In a shortened season, they'll be less likely to just go out and drop the mitts. I think I bought into both guys way too soon. But by my own spreadsheets, Dorsett & Martin ranked 18th & 40th, respectively, in this format last year... and that's why I had done it.

Steals:
Timonen, Robidas, B.Schenn, and Meszaros are guys I'm very happy I got. PHI needs to fill PP slots, Timonen should be a lock for PP-time and possibly even Meszaros. Brayden Schenn is a big hitter who could really emerge into a bigger role, especially with his brother in town. With Souray's departure, it's possible that Robidas steps back into the DAL PP picture, which could be fantastic.

Missed out on:
I forgot about Martin Havlat & Derek Roy. Two value players that were WAY down the Yahoo! board. I really should have nabbed these guys. Havlat went two picks before Dorsett. And D.Roy was on the board when I took Dorsett. Possibly a big mistake.

Expectations:
As long as Bryz & Varly get 75% or more of their team's starts (& don't get injured), I really think I should finish top 5. Pretty happy overall.

Awesome time at the draft even though my connection went on the fritz a couple of times. It has been a while since I have done a roto league so here's to hoping we have a season and I am competetive. Good luck to everybody!

Edit: This FAAB budget is completely new to me as well.

Fantômas

Round Pick Player Position
1. (3) Steven Stamkos C
2. (28) Cory Schneider G
3. (33) Milan Lucic LW
4. (58) Ondrej Pavelec G
5. (63) Jordan Eberle RW
6. (88) Brad Richards C
7. (93) Jeff Skinner C,RW
8. (118) Oliver Ekman-Larsson D
9. (123) Matt Moulson LW
10. (148) Teddy Purcell RW
11. (153) Tobias Enstrom D
12. (178) Luke Schenn D
13. (183) Michal Neuvirth G
14. (208) Brenden Morrow LW
15. (213) Bryan Little C,RW
16. (238) Sven Baertschi LW
17. (243) Chris Kreider C
18. (268) Jordin Tootoo RW
19. (273) Filip Kuba D
20. (298) Max Talbot RW
21. (303) Jordan Leopold D
22. (328) Chris Kelly C
23. (333) Dougie Hamilton D
24. (358) Adam McQuaid D
25. (363) Ryan Reaves RW

Nickel City

Round Pick Player Position
1. (2) Henrik Lundqvist G
2. (29) Kris Letang D
3. (32) Kari Lehtonen G
4. (59) Taylor Hall LW
5. (62) Ryan Getzlaf C
6. (89) Brian Campbell D
7. (92) Ryan Nugent-Hopkins C
8. (119) Chris Kunitz LW
9. (122) Jason Pominville RW
10. (149) Drew Stafford RW
11. (152) Alex Goligoski D
12. (179) Valtteri Filppula C,LW
13. (182) Martin Havlat RW
14. (209) Derek Roy C
15. (212) Tuomo Ruutu C,LW
16. (239) Antoine Vermette C,LW
17. (242) Ales Hemsky RW
18. (269) David Booth LW
19. (272) John-Michael Liles D
20. (299) Tyler Kennedy LW,RW
21. (302) Brad Stuart D
22. (329) Willie Mitchell D
23. (332) Tim Thomas G
24. (359) Eric Brewer D
25. (362) Tyler Bozak C

The Good:
I had decided to pick Lundy at #2 before the draft. But when OV didn't go 1st, I almost waffled because of his great G, SOG & HITS totals at LW. I think my G is pretty solid, and if they can both stay healthy I should have a shot at taking all 3 goalie categories.

I also like the fact that I drafted Goligoski (Rnd 11), Havlat (Rnd 13) and D Roy (Rnd 14) rather late. I was thinking that they won't miss much time because of injury if there is a shortened season.

Brian Campbell in Round 6 could be nice value if he can repeat last year's performance.

The Bad:
Drafting Letang with my 2nd pick. I was hoping that Backes would fall to me in Round 2, but he went 18th overall. And when Byfuglien and Chara went in the round, I decided to draft a D and then a G with my next picks since the 4th round was a looong way down the road.

I also don't like the fact that I ended up with 3 Oilers and 2 Sabres at RW (Pomminville & Stafford).

The Ugly:
Drafting Willie Mitchell in Round 22. Just not a big fan but I wanted some +/-.

Also drafting Liles in Round 19 when I really wanted Tarasenko, who was then drafted 4 picks later.

Rounds 1-6 of the Smythe Draft:

Round 1
1. Sidney Crosby (Pit - C) PopCultureRe...
2. Henrik Lundqvist (NYR - G) Nickel City
3. Steven Stamkos (TB - C) Fantômas
4. Evgeni Malkin (Pit - C,RW) From Russia with 'ov
5. Claude Giroux (Phi - C,RW) Goatlenders
6. Alex Ovechkin (Was - LW) Savages
7. Pekka Rinne (Nsh - G) Hawkdog7mm
8. Jonathan Quick (LA - G) Rougie
9. Patrick Sharp (Chi - C,RW) Prognosis Ne...
10. Corey Perry (Anh - RW) SuluShattenk...
11. Tuukka Rask (Bos - G) AxeHoles
12. Mike Smith (Pho - G) Bearflaggers
13. James Neal (Pit - LW,RW) Scurvy
14. Nicklas Backstrom (Was - C) That Bird Team
15. John Tavares (NYI - C) Blades of Steel

Round 2
1. Tyler Seguin (Bos - C,RW) Blades of Steel
2. Cam Ward (Car - G) That Bird Team
3. David Backes (StL - C,RW) Scurvy
4. Erik Karlsson (Ott - D) Bearflaggers
5. Dustin Byfuglien (Wpg - RW,D) AxeHoles
6. Scott Hartnell (Phi - LW) SuluShattenk...
7. Gabriel Landeskog (Col - LW) Prognosis Ne...
8. Zdeno Chara (Bos - D) Rougie
9. Daniel Sedin (Van - LW) Hawkdog7mm
10. Marc-Andre Fleury (Pit - G) Savages
11. Ilya Kovalchuk (NJ - LW) Goatlenders
12. Ilya Bryzgalov (Phi - G) From Russia with 'ov
13. Cory Schneider (Van - G) Fantômas
14. Kris Letang (Pit - D) Nickel City
15. Ryan Miller (Buf - G) PopCultureRe...

Round 3
1. Roberto Luongo (Van - G) PopCultureRe...
2. Kari Lehtonen (Dal - G) Nickel City
3. Milan Lucic (Bos - LW) Fantômas
4. Zach Parise (Min - LW) From Russia with 'ov
5. Jaroslav Halak (StL - G) Goatlenders
6. Shea Weber (Nsh - D) Savages
7. Henrik Sedin (Van - C) Hawkdog7mm
8. Eric Staal (Car - C) Rougie
9. Alex Pietrangelo (StL - D) Prognosis Ne...
10. Jimmy Howard (Det - G) SuluShattenk...
11. Rick Nash (NYR - LW) AxeHoles
12. Dustin Brown (LA - LW,RW) Bearflaggers
13. Dion Phaneuf (Tor - D) Scurvy
14. Drew Doughty (LA - D) That Bird Team
15. Carey Price (Mon - G) Blades of Steel

Round 4
1. Phil Kessel (Tor - RW) Blades of Steel
2. Joe Pavelski (SJ - C,RW) That Bird Team
3. P.K. Subban (Mon - D) Scurvy
4. Miikka Kiprusoff (Cgy - G) Bearflaggers
5. Jonas Hiller (Anh - G) AxeHoles
6. Anze Kopitar (LA - C) SuluShattenk...
7. Antti Niemi (SJ - G) Prognosis Ne...
8. Craig Anderson (Ott - G) Rougie
9. Anders Lindback (TB - G) Hawkdog7mm
10. Jamie Benn (Dal - C,LW) Savages
11. Niklas Backstrom (Min - G) Goatlenders
12. Semyon Varlamov (Col - G) From Russia with 'ov
13. Ondrej Pavelec (Wpg - G) Fantômas
14. Taylor Hall (Edm - LW) Nickel City
15. Jonathan Toews (Chi - C) PopCultureRe...

Round 5
1. Bobby Ryan (Anh - LW) PopCultureRe...
2. Ryan Getzlaf (Anh - C) Nickel City
3. Jordan Eberle (Edm - RW) Fantômas
4. Marian Gaborik (NYR - RW) From Russia with 'ov
5. Jason Spezza (Ott - C) Goatlenders
6. Corey Crawford (Chi - G) Savages
7. Martin St. Louis (TB - RW) Hawkdog7mm
8. Ryan Callahan (NYR - RW) Rougie
9. Marian Hossa (Chi - RW) Prognosis Ne...
10. Braden Holtby (Was - G) SuluShattenk...
11. Dan Boyle (SJ - D) AxeHoles
12. Pavel Datsyuk (Det - C,LW) Bearflaggers
13. Devan Dubnyk (Edm - G) Scurvy
14. Henrik Zetterberg (Det - C,LW) That Bird Team
15. Max Pacioretty (Mon - LW) Blades of Steel

Round 6
1. Alexander Edler (Van - D) Blades of Steel
2. Steve Ott (Buf - C,LW) That Bird Team
3. Brian Elliott (StL - G) Scurvy
4. Kevin Shattenkirk (StL - D) Bearflaggers
5. Evander Kane (Wpg - LW) AxeHoles
6. Logan Couture (SJ - C,LW) SuluShattenk...
7. Wayne Simmonds (Phi - RW) Prognosis Ne...
8. Patrick Kane (Chi - C,RW) Rougie
9. Brad Marchand (Bos - C,LW) Hawkdog7mm
10. Jarome Iginla (Cgy - RW) Savages
11. Patrick Marleau (SJ - C,LW) Goatlenders
12. Mike Green (Was - D) From Russia with 'ov
13. Brad Richards (NYR - C) Fantômas
14. Brian Campbell (Fla - D) Nickel City
15. Mark Giordano (Cgy - D) PopCultureRef...

Round by Round Notes:
Round 1 - Biggest surprise here was probably Patrick Sharp going at #9. There could be incredible value with John Tavares falling to pick #15. (a guy I took at #6 in consecutive drafts).
Round 2 - FOUR top tier defensemen were taken! What a D-run! This was enough to push Bryzgalov to pick #27 & Miller to pick #30, much later than either the Pro or Adams drafts.
Round 3 - FOUR more defensemen, wowzers... the D-run continues! Top end forwards like Parise, E.Staal, H.Sedin and Nash all slid to this round.
Round 4 - Some nice forward picks made here in Kopitar, Benn, and Toews.
Round 5 - Crawford, Holtby, Dubnyk signals the end of the #1 goaltenders. Getzlaf, Datsyuk, and Zetterberg all went here, potential major bounce-back candidates.
Round 6 - Huge reach for Steve Ott here and possibly the "steal of the draft" - Jarome Iginla fell all the way to pick #85!!!

TEAM SAVAGES:

I had a great time and the draft. Thanks for putting it on despite the lock out. Please feel free to rank my team. I feel that my centers and right wings could use some work but I am very happy with my left wings Defence and goalies. My team may need help in +/-,pims,hits but there are guys on waivers that can help out in that department.

C: Koivu,Krejci,Laich,Peverly
LW: Ovechkin,Benn,Malone,Cammalleri, McLeod
Rw:Iginla,Voracek,Hejduk,Tarasenko,Atkinson
D:Weber,Suter,Ehrhoff,Coburn,Salo,O'Brien,Zidlicky
G:Fleury,Crawford,Vokoun,Giguere


1. (6) Alex Ovechkin LW
2. (25) Marc-Andre Fleury G
3. (36) Shea Weber D
4. (55) Jamie Benn C,LW
5. (66) Corey Crawford G
6. (85) Jarome Iginla RW
7. (96) Mikko Koivu C
8. (115) Ryan Suter D
9. (126) Jakub Voracek RW
10. (145) Ryan Malone LW
11. (156) Christian Ehrhoff D
12. (175) David Krejci C
13. (186) Tomas Vokoun G
14. (205) Braydon Coburn D
15. (216) Michael Cammalleri C,LW
16. (235) Rich Peverley C
17. (246) Shane O'Brien D
18. (265) Brooks Laich C
19. (276) Vladimir Tarasenko RW
20. (295) Cam Atkinson RW
21. (306) Sami Salo D
22. (325) Milan Hejduk RW
23. (336) Marek Zidlicky D
24. (355) Cody McLeod LW
25. (366) Jean-Sebastien Giguere G

Round 07-12 of the Smythe Draft:

Round 7
1. Jordan Staal (Car - C,LW) PopCultureRe...
2. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (Edm - C) Nickel City
3. Jeff Skinner (Car - C,RW) Fantômas
4. Mark Streit (NYI - D) From Russia with 'ov
5. Joe Thornton (SJ - C) Goatlenders
6. Mikko Koivu (Min - C) Savages
7. Ryane Clowe (SJ - LW,RW) Hawkdog7mm
8. Mike Richards (LA - C,LW) Rougie
9. Matt Duchene (Col - C,LW) Prognosis Ne...
10. Thomas Vanek (Buf - LW) SuluShattenk...
11. Shane Doan (Pho - LW,RW) AxeHoles
12. Sergei Bobrovsky (Cls - G) Bearflaggers
13. Erik Cole (Mon - RW) Scurvy
14. Joffrey Lupul (Tor - LW,RW) That Bird Team
15. Martin Brodeur (NJ - G) Blades of Steel

Round 8
1. Jeff Carter (LA - C) Blades of Steel
2. Brent Burns (SJ - D) That Bird Team
3. Blake Wheeler (Wpg - RW) Scurvy
4. Alexandre Burrows (Van - LW,RW) Bearflaggers
5. Johan Franzen (Det - LW,RW) AxeHoles
6. Loui Eriksson (Dal - LW,RW) SuluShattenk...
7. Keith Yandle (Pho - D) Prognosis Ne...
8. Dany Heatley (Min - LW,RW) Rougie
9. Nail Yakupov (Edm - RW) Hawkdog7mm
10. Ryan Suter (Min - D) Savages
11. Niklas Kronwall (Det - D) Goatlenders
12. Alexander Semin (Car - LW,RW) From Russia with 'ov
13. Oliver Ekman-Larsson (Pho - D) Fantômas
14. Chris Kunitz (Pit - LW) Nickel City
15. Duncan Keith (Chi - D) PopCultureRe...

Round 9
1. Brent Seabrook (Chi - D) PopCultureRe...
2. Jason Pominville (Buf - RW) Nickel City
3. Matt Moulson (NYI - LW) Fantômas
4. David Clarkson (NJ - RW) From Russia with 'ov
5. T.J. Oshie (StL - C,RW) Goatlenders
6. Jakub Voracek (Phi - RW) Savages
7. Kevin Bieksa (Van - D) Hawkdog7mm
8. Jack Johnson (Cls - D) Rougie
9. Patrice Bergeron (Bos - C) Prognosis Ne...
10. Danny Briere (Phi - C,RW) SuluShattenk...
11. James Wisniewski (Cls - D) AxeHoles
12. Michael Del Zotto (NYR - D) Bearflaggers
13. Dennis Wideman (Cgy - D) Scurvy
14. Stephen Weiss (Fla - C) That Bird Team
15. Nathan Horton (Bos - RW) Blades of Steel

Round 10
1. Dmitry Kulikov (Fla - D) Blades of Steel
2. Evgeni Nabokov (NYI - G) That Bird Team
3. James van Riemsdyk (Tor - LW) Scurvy
4. Teemu Selanne (Anh - RW) Bearflaggers
5. Patrik Elias (NJ - C,LW) AxeHoles
6. P.A. Parenteau (Col - RW) SuluShattenk...
7. Andrew Ladd (Wpg - LW) Prognosis Ne...
8. Ryan Kesler (Van - C) Rougie
9. Dan Girardi (NYR - D) Hawkdog7mm
10. Ryan Malone (TB - LW) Savages
11. Ray Whitney (Dal - LW) Goatlenders
12. Olli Jokinen (Wpg - C) From Russia with 'ov
13. Teddy Purcell (TB - RW) Fantômas
14. Drew Stafford (Buf - RW) Nickel City
15. Josh Harding (Min - G) PopCultureRe...

Round 11
1. Chris Stewart (StL - RW) PopCultureRe...
2. Alex Goligoski (Dal - D) Nickel City
3. Tobias Enstrom (Wpg - D) Fantômas
4. Vincent Lecavalier (TB - C) From Russia with 'ov
5. Travis Zajac (NJ - C) Goatlenders
6. Christian Ehrhoff (Buf - D) Savages
7. Matt Carle (TB - D) Hawkdog7mm
8. Brandon Dubinsky (Cls - C,LW) Rougie
9. Travis Hamonic (NYI - D) Prognosis Ne...
10. Justin Williams (LA - RW) SuluShattenk...
11. Jose Theodore (Fla - G) AxeHoles
12. Kris Versteeg (Fla - LW,RW) Bearflaggers
13. Milan Michalek (Ott - LW,RW) Scurvy
14. Patrik Berglund (StL - C) That Bird Team
15. Ryan McDonagh (NYR - D) Blades of Steel

Round 12
1. Tomas Fleischmann (Fla - LW) Blades of Steel
2. Erik Johnson (Col - D) That Bird Team
3. Mike Ribeiro (Was - C) Scurvy
4. Radim Vrbata (Pho - RW) Bearflaggers
5. Tomas Plekanec (Mon - C) AxeHoles
6. Tyler Ennis (Buf - C,LW) SuluShattenk...
7. Derek Stepan (NYR - C) Prognosis Ne...
8. Cal Clutterbuck (Min - RW) Rougie
9. Steve Downie (Col - LW,RW) Hawkdog7mm
10. David Krejci (Bos - C) Savages
11. Matt Read (Phi - RW) Goatlenders
12. Kimmo Timonen (Phi - D) From Russia with 'ov
13. Luke Schenn (Phi - D) Fantômas
14. Valtteri Filppula (Det - C,LW) Nickel City
15. Nick Foligno (Cls - LW) PopCultureRe...

Round by Round Notes:
Round 7 - I loved the last two picks of this round. Brodeur in a short-season can still be spectacular & Lupul was a top 15 player in standard leagues last year before getting injured.
Round 8 - Heatley went here a few picks before I had a chance to nab him (took Semin). Kunitz is a well-rounded steal, especially in HITS - could be the pick of the round.
Round 9 - This "felt" like the round where picks started to get dicey. Bergeron was the most solid pick in the round. Lots of huge potential hits and/or misses here.
Round 10 - Much like round 9, there were some huge risks here that could pay off big. JVR, Kesler, Parenteau, and Purcell are all oozing with possible value... or overvalue?!
Round 11 - A nice value round - I thought the Carle, Dubinsky, and Justin Williams picks will all be nice picks. Teams jumped back to adding their #2D or #3D in this round.
Round 12 - The hitters started to go in Round 12. I thought there were some very nice center picks here in Ribeiro, Plekanec, Stepan, and Krejci. All solid value.

Quick question. I have never been in weekly line up or Fabb waivers. Can you explain these? When do we have to have the lineup in ect... and how does this waivers work?

I actually know NOTHING about FAAB or the fine details of the weekly-set.
I've created a post here asking for an explanation from the veterans of the Dobber 3-Tiered leagues.