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theslymonkey 08-01-2012 01:26 AM

I built my team.... Now what?
 
League and team details are in my signature.

So I have spent many hours trading/building my team with all the players I wanted. But I have created a problem, that I can't decide how to get out of. I need to keep 6 players, and I have 8-9 that are legitimate candidates.

The players that I consider to be keeper candidates are:
F- Giroux, Backstrom, Tavares, Kovalchuk, Getzlaf, E.Staal, Iginla
G- Price, Rask

Let me set some background so you know my situation.
- I usually dominate in most trades that I make, so most of the managers are hesitant to trade with me because I have built a reputation of always winning any trade.
- I have made a solid run at Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, Ovechkin, Lundy, and Quick. The owners have basically told me that they are not moving them regardless of the offer.
- I don't want to own a Sedin.
- Goalies are valuable in our league and all managers keep at least one goalie, if not two.
- I am a die hard Flames fan, but I am the only one in our pool. The rest of the managers are Flames haters, so I can usually draft my favorite Flames at a discount.
- I won the league two years ago, and was the runner up last year. I would like to keep winning for a while if possible.
- I really like Price, but don't want to overvalue him given our scoring counts just W's and SO's.
- Almost all teams have six players that they are happy with and are not too keen on trading a first or second round for one of my players. I think they're foolish, but whatever.
- My picks in the first two rounds are 5, 11, 12, 19.

The players that should be available at the draft are (not including who I drop):
F- Benn, Eriksson, Stastny, Ryan, Carter, Vanek, E.Kane, Sharp...
D- Yandle, Buff...
G- Smith, Hiller, Anderson, Pavelec, Backstrom, Lehtonen, Lindback, Varlamov...


So I have a couple questions that need to be answered:

1. Who are my six that I have to keep.

2. Other than the players listed above, are there players that I have missed that I should be targeting to improve my keepers?

3. Is it a foolish risk to keep all forwards and draft goalies while everyone else trys to pick up forwards in the first couple rounds?

4. Please hit me with any other advise that you think would be helpful for the rest of the off season.

Thanks for the Help. I'll give REP out like candy if I can ;-)


*****EDIT*****

Here is the league and the players that they have that are worth looking at.

Team 1:
Goalie: Bryz, Schneider, Hiller
Top players: H.Sedin(untouchable), Kopitar, Skinner, Semin, Lupul

Team 2:
Goalie: Ward
Top Players: Crosby(untouchable), Datsyuk, Spezza, Hall, Green, Vanek

Team 3:
Goalie: Halak
Top Players: Thornton, Marleau, Kesler, Richards, Letang

Team 4:
Goalie: Rinne, Neimi
Top Players: D.Sedin(untouchable), St Louis, Weber, Suter

Team 5:
Goalie: Brodeur
Top Players: Stamkos(untouchable), Gaborik, B.Richards, Hossa, Duchene

Team 6:
Goalie: Lundy, Quick
Top Players: Malkin, Seguin, Koivu, Heatley, Carter

Team 7:
Goalie: Luongo
Top Players: Parise, Perry, RNH, Kessel, Nash, Ryan

Team 8:
Goalie: Fleury, Smith
Top Players: Ovie, Toews, Eriksson, Neal, Benn, Doughty

Team 9:
Goalie: Miller, Howard
Top Players: Kane, Eberle, Zetterberg, Karlsson, Byfuglien, Yandle

The untouchables are because they have a huge man crush on the player, and won't trade the player for anything.

rataylor22 08-01-2012 02:40 AM

I'd look at exchanging Getzlaf or Staal for Price. Can't think of any other players to target, keep 6 is probably too shallow but maybe target like an oilers kid, Seguin, Parise, umm that's all that comes to mind.

cpalermo84 08-01-2012 04:06 AM

1-Given that you need to start 2 goalies, and what is available i think you should strongly consider keeping one of Rask or Price. The other players id keep would be Giroux,Tavares,Backstrom,Getzlaf,Staal.

2-Tough to say, without knowing the other teams rosters, your top 6 look solid. Like the previous reply suggest, you can take a gamble with one of the Oilers kids, Seguin,Toews,Neal,Perry, just to name a few.

3-Seeing as though you start 2 id try and keep 1, most of my leagues goalies are important.

4-I'd look into moving Kovalchuk, not 100% sure but i believe he will miss the start of the season. There also seems to be some quality forwards available ex:Ryan,Benn,Vanek,Eriksson. Have you thought of trying to aquire E.Karlsson? In a limited keeper a possible PPG defensemen can be huge.

kevinsrangers 08-01-2012 06:26 AM

some tough cuts here but id go with this.
F- Giroux, Backstrom, Tavares, Kovalchuk, Getzlaf,
G- Price,

if you want to gamble keep staal instead of a goalie. a fairly shallow league you may be able to draft goalies with your earliest picks.

3rtpaper 08-01-2012 08:20 AM

F- Giroux, Backstrom, Tavares, E. Staal, Getzlaf,
G- Rask - He will get you more wins than Price which means he is better in your format than Price.

All of these forwards are still relatively young.. as much as it pains me to keep Kovy of this list in a points based league he is having a lot of back problems which could be an issue going forward. Iginla is to old and should be easily redrafted.

If you can't make a 2 for 1 swap then this is who I would go with.

jkspartan05 08-01-2012 10:52 AM

With your scoring setup, holding onto one goalie should be a priority. Your goalies (Price, Rask and Kipper) are all in the 70-80 point range. Top goalies in your league score around 100. I wouldn't hold onto more than one goalie and stick with your PPG+ forwards to fill out your 6 keepers. Its a tough call as to who to keep out of those three goalies. Id probably go with Rask as he should get you the most wins.

theslymonkey 08-01-2012 11:42 AM

League Rosters added to the Initial Post

IggyIggyIggy 08-01-2012 11:55 AM

Good thing you took the time to show what the other teams' keepers would be like. You have to look to see who has the weakest keepers. Team 8 is insanely good IMO and probably won't get a deal done with you at all, your players don't improve their team at all. From this, I see team 9 being very defence heavy. You could try and pry Karlsson in a 2-for-1 if you want to target a D (depending on how valuable they are). Team 3 looks very weak, but has no upgrades for you. The only other players I would target is Seguin in team 6 as Carter/Koivu/Heatley aren't that strong of keepers. You could also target Skinner or Hall from their respective teams depending on how much you like their potential and youth, but you only posted 5 keepers for each of those teams so it would depend on what their 6th keeper is.

In summary, I'd target Seguin, Karlsson, Hall, and then Skinner, probably in that order.

Hope this helps!

theslymonkey 08-01-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IggyIggyIggy (Post 999641)
Good thing you took the time to show what the other teams' keepers would be like. You have to look to see who has the weakest keepers. Team 8 is insanely good IMO and probably won't get a deal done with you at all, your players don't improve their team at all. From this, I see team 9 being very defence heavy. You could try and pry Karlsson in a 2-for-1 if you want to target a D (depending on how valuable they are). Team 3 looks very weak, but has no upgrades for you. The only other players I would target is Seguin in team 6 as Carter/Koivu/Heatley aren't that strong of keepers. You could also target Skinner or Hall from their respective teams depending on how much you like their potential and youth, but you only posted 5 keepers for each of those teams so it would depend on what their 6th keeper is.

In summary, I'd target Seguin, Karlsson, Hall, and then Skinner, probably in that order.

Hope this helps!

I didn't post any more players for their teams, because the rest of the players are worthless.

theslymonkey 08-02-2012 12:46 PM

Thanks for the help. I Rep'd everyone, except KevinsRangers because it won't let me... You help out too much. But I do appreciate it.

If anyone else has other thoughts, I'd appreciate it.


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